Comments on: Is VMware becoming the bad guy? http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/2009/06/is-vmware-becoming-the-bad-guy/ Creativity is inventing, experimenting, growing, taking risks, breaking rules, making mistakes, and having fun Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:01:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Virtualizing the Sphere's Edge… » Blog Archive » VMware asks Veeam to remove support for free ESXi from Backup product http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/2009/06/is-vmware-becoming-the-bad-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-666 Virtualizing the Sphere's Edge… » Blog Archive » VMware asks Veeam to remove support for free ESXi from Backup product Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:32:33 +0000 http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/?p=1950#comment-666 [...] After the controversial decision to limit the competitors at the upcoming VMworld, with this move VMware took a further step to compromise its image of beloved innovator as the community reactions demonstrate here, here and here. [...] [...] After the controversial decision to limit the competitors at the upcoming VMworld, with this move VMware took a further step to compromise its image of beloved innovator as the community reactions demonstrate here, here and here. [...]

]]> By: VMware asks Veeam to remove support for free ESXi from Backup product | בניית אתרים טכנו-ביסים (techno-bites) | בניית אתרים http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/2009/06/is-vmware-becoming-the-bad-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-481 VMware asks Veeam to remove support for free ESXi from Backup product | בניית אתרים טכנו-ביסים (techno-bites) | בניית אתרים Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:00:50 +0000 http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/?p=1950#comment-481 [...] After the controversial decision to limit the competitors at the upcoming VMworld, with this move VMware took a further step to compromise its image of beloved innovator as the community reactions demonstrate here, here and here. [...] [...] After the controversial decision to limit the competitors at the upcoming VMworld, with this move VMware took a further step to compromise its image of beloved innovator as the community reactions demonstrate here, here and here. [...]

]]> By: MeAgain http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/2009/06/is-vmware-becoming-the-bad-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-480 MeAgain Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:40:52 +0000 http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/?p=1950#comment-480 The support they dropped is just for the free edition. To be honest this doesn't surprise me at all. A lot of (small) companies use the free ESXi in production environments. VMware also wants to make money in SMB segment. You're still allowed to use the free ESXi in your production environment, but you have to pay for support. This isn't strange I think. The people that are helping you on the telephone or that are troubleshooting your problems still have to be paid. It looks a bit like have no warranty on a product and still you do want the company to replace it without you having to pay for it. I don't think ESXi will be dropped at all. I think (hope) that ESXi will be the only version available :) I think there will be a migration from ESX to ESXi. You already see this happening with vMA, the management virtual appliance. I'm not sure if I agree with you that they passed Microsoft. To be honest, the action they took is a logical one. All companies want to make money, and VMware isn't an exception. The support they dropped is just for the free edition. To be honest this doesn’t surprise me at all. A lot of (small) companies use the free ESXi in production environments. VMware also wants to make money in SMB segment. You’re still allowed to use the free ESXi in your production environment, but you have to pay for support. This isn’t strange I think. The people that are helping you on the telephone or that are troubleshooting your problems still have to be paid. It looks a bit like have no warranty on a product and still you do want the company to replace it without you having to pay for it.

I don’t think ESXi will be dropped at all. I think (hope) that ESXi will be the only version available :) I think there will be a migration from ESX to ESXi. You already see this happening with vMA, the management virtual appliance.

I’m not sure if I agree with you that they passed Microsoft. To be honest, the action they took is a logical one. All companies want to make money, and VMware isn’t an exception.

]]> By: Anne Jan Elsinga http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/2009/06/is-vmware-becoming-the-bad-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-2061 Anne Jan Elsinga Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:40:00 +0000 http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/?p=1950#comment-2061 The support they dropped is just for the free edition. To be honest this doesn't surprise me at all. A lot of (small) companies use the free ESXi in production environments. VMware also wants to make money in SMB segment. You're still allowed to use the free ESXi in your production environment, but you have to pay for support. This isn't strange I think. The people that are helping you on the telephone or that are troubleshooting your problems still have to be paid. It looks a bit like have no warranty on a product and still you do want the company to replace it without you having to pay for it. I don't think ESXi will be dropped at all. I think (hope) that ESXi will be the only version available :) I think there will be a migration from ESX to ESXi. You already see this happening with vMA, the management virtual appliance. I'm not sure if I agree with you that they passed Microsoft. To be honest, the action they took is a logical one. All companies want to make money, and VMware isn't an exception. The support they dropped is just for the free edition. To be honest this doesn’t surprise me at all. A lot of (small) companies use the free ESXi in production environments. VMware also wants to make money in SMB segment. You’re still allowed to use the free ESXi in your production environment, but you have to pay for support. This isn’t strange I think. The people that are helping you on the telephone or that are troubleshooting your problems still have to be paid. It looks a bit like have no warranty on a product and still you do want the company to replace it without you having to pay for it.

I don’t think ESXi will be dropped at all. I think (hope) that ESXi will be the only version available :) I think there will be a migration from ESX to ESXi. You already see this happening with vMA, the management virtual appliance.

I’m not sure if I agree with you that they passed Microsoft. To be honest, the action they took is a logical one. All companies want to make money, and VMware isn’t an exception.

]]> By: VeeamMeUp » Blog Archive » New Veeam Essentials Bundle http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/2009/06/is-vmware-becoming-the-bad-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-475 VeeamMeUp » Blog Archive » New Veeam Essentials Bundle Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:08:23 +0000 http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/?p=1950#comment-475 [...] Eric Scholten at VMGURU.NL [...] [...] Eric Scholten at VMGURU.NL [...]

]]> By: Rob A. http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/2009/06/is-vmware-becoming-the-bad-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-473 Rob A. Wed, 10 Jun 2009 01:46:04 +0000 http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/?p=1950#comment-473 What do you mean BECOMING the bad guy? VSphere is a price increase and now this. VMware is way past Microsoft and becoming as bad as Oracle. VMware pricing is draconian (like Oracle), their dropping support for ESXi (how much longer do you expect Oracle to support MySQL) and how much longer before ESXi is just gone? What do you mean BECOMING the bad guy? VSphere is a price increase and now this. VMware is way past Microsoft and becoming as bad as Oracle. VMware pricing is draconian (like Oracle), their dropping support for ESXi (how much longer do you expect Oracle to support MySQL) and how much longer before ESXi is just gone?

]]> By: Rob A. http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/2009/06/is-vmware-becoming-the-bad-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-2060 Rob A. Wed, 10 Jun 2009 01:46:00 +0000 http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/?p=1950#comment-2060 What do you mean BECOMING the bad guy? VSphere is a price increase and now this. VMware is way past Microsoft and becoming as bad as Oracle. VMware pricing is draconian (like Oracle), their dropping support for ESXi (how much longer do you expect Oracle to support MySQL) and how much longer before ESXi is just gone? What do you mean BECOMING the bad guy? VSphere is a price increase and now this. VMware is way past Microsoft and becoming as bad as Oracle. VMware pricing is draconian (like Oracle), their dropping support for ESXi (how much longer do you expect Oracle to support MySQL) and how much longer before ESXi is just gone?

]]> By: Clint Eschberger http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/2009/06/is-vmware-becoming-the-bad-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-466 Clint Eschberger Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:04:42 +0000 http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/?p=1950#comment-466 I think they are unfortunately following a common path. When VMware first came around the idea of a hypervisor in the data center was pretty far fetched. It was in VMwares best interest to promote virtualzation to help themselves grow. Without it catching on they were dead in the water. Even when it started to catch on in production environments, it still was not yet mainstream so they kept supporting virtualization as a whole even though it meant at the time that competitors alike would gain from this as well. However now as VMware sits at the top of the hypervisor world, they want to use the power that they have gained to thwart others like Hyper-V, Xen, etc. I do think they are starting to take that bully or bad guy persona now. I too have been a big fan of VMware and enjoy talking about it with others. However they are starting to look a little Microsoft-esque. I think they are unfortunately following a common path. When VMware first came around the idea of a hypervisor in the data center was pretty far fetched. It was in VMwares best interest to promote virtualzation to help themselves grow. Without it catching on they were dead in the water. Even when it started to catch on in production environments, it still was not yet mainstream so they kept supporting virtualization as a whole even though it meant at the time that competitors alike would gain from this as well.

However now as VMware sits at the top of the hypervisor world, they want to use the power that they have gained to thwart others like Hyper-V, Xen, etc.

I do think they are starting to take that bully or bad guy persona now. I too have been a big fan of VMware and enjoy talking about it with others. However they are starting to look a little Microsoft-esque.

]]> By: Clint Eschberger http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/2009/06/is-vmware-becoming-the-bad-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-2059 Clint Eschberger Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:04:00 +0000 http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/?p=1950#comment-2059 I think they are unfortunately following a common path. When VMware first came around the idea of a hypervisor in the data center was pretty far fetched. It was in VMwares best interest to promote virtualzation to help themselves grow. Without it catching on they were dead in the water. Even when it started to catch on in production environments, it still was not yet mainstream so they kept supporting virtualization as a whole even though it meant at the time that competitors alike would gain from this as well. However now as VMware sits at the top of the hypervisor world, they want to use the power that they have gained to thwart others like Hyper-V, Xen, etc. I do think they are starting to take that bully or bad guy persona now. I too have been a big fan of VMware and enjoy talking about it with others. However they are starting to look a little Microsoft-esque. I think they are unfortunately following a common path. When VMware first came around the idea of a hypervisor in the data center was pretty far fetched. It was in VMwares best interest to promote virtualzation to help themselves grow. Without it catching on they were dead in the water. Even when it started to catch on in production environments, it still was not yet mainstream so they kept supporting virtualization as a whole even though it meant at the time that competitors alike would gain from this as well.

However now as VMware sits at the top of the hypervisor world, they want to use the power that they have gained to thwart others like Hyper-V, Xen, etc.

I do think they are starting to take that bully or bad guy persona now. I too have been a big fan of VMware and enjoy talking about it with others. However they are starting to look a little Microsoft-esque.

]]> By: vmdoug http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/2009/06/is-vmware-becoming-the-bad-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-465 vmdoug Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:02:43 +0000 http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/?p=1950#comment-465 No comment ;-) No comment ;-)

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