Comments on: Want to play truth or dare with the Oracle Sales force? http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/2009/07/want-to-play-truth-or-dare-with-the-oracle-sales-force/ Creativity is inventing, experimenting, growing, taking risks, breaking rules, making mistakes, and having fun Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:01:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Edwin http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/2009/07/want-to-play-truth-or-dare-with-the-oracle-sales-force/comment-page-1/#comment-2446 Edwin Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:18:00 +0000 http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/?p=2122#comment-2446 If you use Oracle as your database platform you are correct about the licensing you will need. Thats why you don't see many VMware deployments with vCenter Server connecting to a Oracle database and that is a pity I just hope Oracle gets his act together and makes its licensing a lot more transparent and usable in virtual environments. I have spoken to a lot of customers who are willing to pay for Oracle licenses but dont get any normal offer out of Oracle If you use Oracle as your database platform you are correct about the licensing you will need. Thats why you don’t see many VMware deployments with vCenter Server connecting to a Oracle database and that is a pity I just hope Oracle gets his act together and makes its licensing a lot more transparent and usable in virtual environments. I have spoken to a lot of customers who are willing to pay for Oracle licenses but dont get any normal offer out of Oracle

]]> By: Tjk http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/2009/07/want-to-play-truth-or-dare-with-the-oracle-sales-force/comment-page-1/#comment-2443 Tjk Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:33:00 +0000 http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/?p=2122#comment-2443 Named user licensing isn't just about the number of users in the database. For example, if you use Oracle to run your vCenter database, you must use processor licenses. They say since the VMware nodes have the ability to send data to vCenter and the database, that is considered a user. The same for each VM on the hw node, so they enforce that you use processor licenses in this sort of setup. The same would be even for a web app, if the user isn't stored in the database, but that user is generating data that gets stored (ie metrics, tracking, cookies, etc) that user must be licensed. Named user licensing isn’t just about the number of users in the database. For example, if you use Oracle to run your vCenter database, you must use processor licenses. They say since the VMware nodes have the ability to send data to vCenter and the database, that is considered a user. The same for each VM on the hw node, so they enforce that you use processor licenses in this sort of setup.

The same would be even for a web app, if the user isn’t stored in the database, but that user is generating data that gets stored (ie metrics, tracking, cookies, etc) that user must be licensed.

]]> By: Viperian http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/2009/07/want-to-play-truth-or-dare-with-the-oracle-sales-force/comment-page-1/#comment-590 Viperian Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:56:38 +0000 http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/?p=2122#comment-590 Oracle can be used on VMware without any problems(even responds faster with customers who tuned their Oracle on virtual machines running on top of VMware ESX) , except licensing madness offcourse. Typing a blogpost called Oracle support on a VMware enviroment atm. You will always have too look into 3 import things when putting functionality/applications on a virtual platform. 1)Licensing 2)Support 3)Performance. Oracle can be used on VMware without any problems(even responds faster with customers who tuned their Oracle on virtual machines running on top of VMware ESX) , except licensing madness offcourse. Typing a blogpost called Oracle support on a VMware enviroment atm. You will always have too look into 3 import things when putting functionality/applications on a virtual platform. 1)Licensing 2)Support 3)Performance.

]]> By: Edwin http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/2009/07/want-to-play-truth-or-dare-with-the-oracle-sales-force/comment-page-1/#comment-2098 Edwin Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:56:00 +0000 http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/?p=2122#comment-2098 Oracle can be used on VMware without any problems(even responds faster with customers who tuned their Oracle on virtual machines running on top of VMware ESX) , except licensing madness offcourse. Typing a blogpost called Oracle support on a VMware enviroment atm. You will always have too look into 3 import things when putting functionality/applications on a virtual platform. 1)Licensing 2)Support 3)Performance. Oracle can be used on VMware without any problems(even responds faster with customers who tuned their Oracle on virtual machines running on top of VMware ESX) , except licensing madness offcourse. Typing a blogpost called Oracle support on a VMware enviroment atm. You will always have too look into 3 import things when putting functionality/applications on a virtual platform. 1)Licensing 2)Support 3)Performance.

]]> By: Admin-ora http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/2009/07/want-to-play-truth-or-dare-with-the-oracle-sales-force/comment-page-1/#comment-589 Admin-ora Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:55:13 +0000 http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/?p=2122#comment-589 Great achievement & article Oracle licensing is idd very strange. The fact that licensing costs depend on your oracle account manager is very strange. That shows that they themselves don't know how their licensing model is build. Great achievement & article

Oracle licensing is idd very strange. The fact that licensing costs depend on your oracle account manager is very strange. That shows that they themselves don’t know how their licensing model is build.

]]> By: Admin-ora http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/2009/07/want-to-play-truth-or-dare-with-the-oracle-sales-force/comment-page-1/#comment-2097 Admin-ora Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:55:00 +0000 http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/?p=2122#comment-2097 Great achievement & article Oracle licensing is idd very strange. The fact that licensing costs depend on your oracle account manager is very strange. That shows that they themselves don't know how their licensing model is build. Great achievement & article

Oracle licensing is idd very strange. The fact that licensing costs depend on your oracle account manager is very strange. That shows that they themselves don’t know how their licensing model is build.

]]> By: Linus http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/2009/07/want-to-play-truth-or-dare-with-the-oracle-sales-force/comment-page-1/#comment-588 Linus Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:45:00 +0000 http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/?p=2122#comment-588 Wow. And I thought MS' or our licensing was a challenge. How does anyone do the licensing for Oracle without completely losing it on the sales force? BTW, is Oracle now Okie-dokies with being used on VMware? I lost track of that little bru-ha-ha. Wow. And I thought MS’ or our licensing was a challenge. How does anyone do the licensing for Oracle without completely losing it on the sales force? BTW, is Oracle now Okie-dokies with being used on VMware? I lost track of that little bru-ha-ha.

]]> By: Linus http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/2009/07/want-to-play-truth-or-dare-with-the-oracle-sales-force/comment-page-1/#comment-2096 Linus Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:45:00 +0000 http://www.vmguru.nl/wordpress/?p=2122#comment-2096 Wow. And I thought MS' or our licensing was a challenge. How does anyone do the licensing for Oracle without completely losing it on the sales force? BTW, is Oracle now Okie-dokies with being used on VMware? I lost track of that little bru-ha-ha. Wow. And I thought MS’ or our licensing was a challenge. How does anyone do the licensing for Oracle without completely losing it on the sales force? BTW, is Oracle now Okie-dokies with being used on VMware? I lost track of that little bru-ha-ha.

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