May
21
2010

Trade in XenApp for VMware View part 2

It is always nice to see how Citrix fan-boys reacts on publications about VMware View. Especially when it comes to an comparison or XenApp for View trade in. It is often said that Citrix listens to their customers but they are seldom heard! People need simple solutions in a complex IT world. Why pay for a very high end piece of engineering like a Ferrari if I can get the job done with a Volkswagen! OK, it is nice to have a car that nobody else has and can do 320 km/h but in times were budgets are under pressure, I have a hard time defending expensive, complex and high-end solutions.

The fact that VDI is putting a significant load on the storage is true, but that counts for every VDI solutions including XenDesktop, so no differences there. Also the new upcoming version of View includes a basic profile management solution “Persona Management”. Which makes the use of linked clones a very workable solution.

When you compare installing View and XenDesktop you will see the following diagram.













When it comes down to management consoles the two solutions also look very different.

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Written by Arjan van 't Hoff in: Citrix, VMware, VMware View/VDI |Other posts by Arjan van 't Hoff| Tags: , , ,
Apr
09
2010

A ‘real life’ View, XenDesktop, Microsoft VDI comparison

After attending the dutch Citrix Partner Exchange 2010 I realized that there is a lot of FUD out there:

  • in the Citrix community with regards to VMware View and PCoIP;
  • with me personally with regards to XenDesktop (no F, but a lot of UD)

This is also what we saw when Alex shared his experience with Citrix XenDesktop, which was not so positive, and we got a lot of comments comparing XenDesktop to VMware View.

But the Citrix Partner Exchange got me interested in XenDesktop and XenClient and I decided to do a little research. Then I came across Brian Maddens site to find that he had just finished his ‘Geek week VDI‘ in which he did a ‘real life’ lab-test with VMware, Citrix and Microsoft VDI. They tested all three vendor in their lab environment but added a WAN ’simulator’ to create real life and worst case scenarios by introducing packet loss and latency.

And honestly I was surprised by some of their their conclusions. Not because I have no faith in Brian Madden but because I know Brian Madden to be a real Citrix enthusiast and a PCoIP critic. At the end he was very honest by admitting that Citrix XenDesktop looks like a mash-up of a bunch of different things, he was surprised by the simple, straightforward installation and configuration of VMware View and the good performance of PC-o-IP.

So bottom line?

  • VMware View shines because of simplicity and has good user experience even with PC-o-IP over a WAN connection.
  • XenDesktop is, at the moment, certainly the more mature and complete product but it’s complexity is a drawback.
  • And Microsoft ‘in box’ VDI? Well as expected, it’s complex, not enterprise ready and it’s no match for Citrix or VMware.


So as always, there is no clear winner, it all depends on the customer’s wishes.

Special thanks to Brian Madden and his team for creating this great VDI test!


I won’t summarize the total VDI test, you can read it yourself here but I will quote some of the conclusions which I found to be very interesting.

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Written by Erik Scholten in: Citrix, Microsoft, VMware, VMware View/VDI, XenServer |Other posts by Erik Scholten| Tags: , , ,
Dec
29
2009

Best practices XenApp on vSphere

Based on the real life results when virtualizing XenApp I thought it was about time to summarize some of the best practices for virtualizing XenApp servers.

Why we DO want to virtualize XenApp?

  1. For server consolidation:  vSphere enables scale up XenApp deployments;
  2. For mixing server editions: 32-bit and 64-bit XenApp VMs can coexist;
  3. For management: Better management through flexibility & isolation think about Change Management and VMware DRS;
  4. For high availability and disaster recovery: VMware HA and vCenter Site Recovery Manager;
  5. For less costs for server hardware, maintenance contracts, power, cooling, floor and rackspace.

Virtualizing XenApp servers is very complex. There are a lot more layers involved, like the type of hardware, the capabilities of the processor, the performance of the shared storage, the hypervisor used, the specific settings per hypervisor, operating system settings in a virtual environment, the XenApp settings in a virtual environment, the Workspace management settings in a virtual environment etc, etc.

In the following sections I tried to summarize some of the best practices we use in our projects:

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Written by Arjan van 't Hoff in: Best Practices, Citrix, ESX/ESXi, Knowledgebase, VMware, vSphere |Other posts by Arjan van 't Hoff| Tags: , , ,
Dec
08
2009

Is VDI bringing you simplified management, tight integration and less management consoles??

A lot of our customers are asking me about the management differences between the VDI solutions from Citrix (XenDesktop 4.0) and VMware (View 4.0). Because I realize that there are a lot of “it depends” choices to be made I decided to compare the two solutions in a basic VDI setup. In a basic VDI environment you need a couple components.

I decided to compare the VMware View Premier edition with the Citrix XenDesktop Platinum edition. I know that the Citrix XenDektop Platinum edition brings a lot more products of Citrix within the bundle but because I am only comparing the basic components and no costs our nice to have features, that is not a problem.

So in a basic VDI environment you need:

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Written by Arjan van 't Hoff in: Citrix, VMware, VMware View/VDI, XenServer |Other posts by Arjan van 't Hoff| Tags: , , , ,
Oct
20
2009

VMware View & Citrix XenApp, the similarities & differences.

Last week I held a presentation for our Sales department. As we sold a lot of Citrix Xantippe over the last few years they wanted me to tell them more about the differences between a VMware View and the traditional terminal server based Citrix XenApp solution. So I made a summery about the differences and similarities. When VMware also asked me about the presentation I decided to translate it into English and share it with you all.

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Written by Arjan van 't Hoff in: Citrix, VMware, VMware View/VDI |Other posts by Arjan van 't Hoff| Tags: , , ,
Sep
09
2009

CDG Technical update

Yesterday, the three of us attended one of the quarterly CDG(1) Technical update sessions which was held at ‘de Glazen Ruimte‘ in Maarssen.

The three subject were:

  1. RES Software and VMware View by Bart van Winden (RES) en Ton Hermes (VMware);
  2. Citrix reduces traffic jams on the roads to and from our Dynamic Delivery Center by Marc Wagevoort (CDG);
  3. VMworld San Francisco 2009 update by Rob van der Wel.

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Written by Erik Scholten in: Citrix, VMGuru.nl, VMware View/VDI, VMworld (Europe) |Other posts by Erik Scholten| Tags: , , ,
Sep
01
2009

Citrix HDX 3D with host-side GPU-based encoding

Yesterday Citrix announced HDX 3D which is an enhancement to the ICA protocol which, according to Citrix, delivers 3D applications by only using one-tenth of the bandwidth.

This is fierce competition for VMware’s PCoIP which they developed with Teradici and which VMware will demo at VMworld 2009 this week.

I have only seen the HDX 3D demo video, which can be found here, and I’m anxiously waiting for footage of the PCoIP demo at VMworld 2009 this week. I’ve seen the demo at VMworld Europe 2009 and I must say I was very impressed . On the other hand I found the Citrix videos to be very shaky/flashy/blinky. I hope (and to be honest, I think) that this is not representative of real life performance (I’m in a pro Citrix mood today ;-) ).

If you want to know what HDX 3D is and how it works please visit BrianMadden.com. He can explain this much better than I can but you will have to see past the Citrix minded VMware skepticism ‘If VMware can actually come out with a decent implementation of PC-over-IP’-like comments.

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Written by Erik Scholten in: Citrix |Other posts by Erik Scholten| Tags: , ,
Jul
31
2009

VMware vs Citrix @ Burton Group Catalyst event

Burton Group is in their last day of their annual Catalyst Conference in San Diego (July 27 – 31, 2009). Wednesday they had their announced VMware vs Citrix battle and I just watched their video feed.

It was a very interesting ‘battle’ between VMware’s Scott Drummonds and Citrix’s Simon Crosby but I must admit that I was a bit annoyed a times. I think the the photo on the left captures the atmosphere for the debate quite well.

Simon Crosby constantly attacking VMware on various issues, but mainly on VMware’s standpoint on performance testing, and Scott Drummonds staying very relaxed, not getting into a bitch fight, throwing mud and pulling hair.

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Written by Erik Scholten in: Citrix, ESX/ESXi, VMware, XenServer |Other posts by Erik Scholten| Tags: , ,
Jun
24
2009

Our first XEN-Experience, a XenServer 5.5 testdrive

As I am in the final week before my holiday and all projects are finished, I thought it might be a good idea to check out the competition. So I downloaded the free version of Citrix’s XenServer 5.5 to see what the fuss is all about.

First I tried to install it on a spare desktop at home (P4 2,4GHz CPU, 2GB RAM) but this failed, probably because the CPU doesn’t supply Intel VT.

Yesterday at work I grabbed two desktops with a Core2Duo E6400 with Intel VT and 4GB of RAM and installed Citrix XenServer 5.5 on it.

XenConsoleThe installation is pretty straightforward, much like ESXi, and in about 5-10 minutes you will have a XenServer up and running. The first thing I noticed is that the console is very feature rich. We all know the yellow/gray console of an ESXi server and all you can do is basic configuration tasks like set an IP address, DNS server and default gateway, give the server its name, do a few tests and that’s about it. The console of a XenServer has a lot more features. Next to all ESXi-like features you can start and stop virtual machines, configure storage, resource pools and licensing, configure back-up, restore and updates.

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Written by Erik Scholten in: Citrix, XenServer |Other posts by Erik Scholten| Tags: ,
Apr
25
2009

Enterprise Hypervisor comparison

The last few weeks many blogs and forums have spend time on hypervisor comparisons and I have read tons of articles on the subject. Many only compare hypervisors based on performance, features or cost. I think it’s a bit more complicated then that. After Citrix announced that their XenServer product is available for free I spend a fair deal of my time explaining to colleagues and clients that this is a hoax and that cost is not the only reason to base their decision on. Especially in the case of XenServer the choice and the long term effects make it a little bit more complicated.

When I read Chris Wolfe’s article on ‘Production-class Hypervisor Evaluation criteria‘ and saw his VMworld Europe 2009 presentation (DC15) I found someone who read my mind. Chris knows what he is talking about and uses the right criteria to select the right hypervisor for the job. Now you probably think ‘These VMGuru.nl guys are VMware fans so here we go again‘ but the opposite is true.

Like Chris I think every situation has its own ideal solution and you should select the hypervisor based on well-considered selection criteria and because my employer, Centric, focuses on clients with 500+ workstations/employees these criteria are Enterprise-class hypervisor selection criteria.

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Written by Erik Scholten in: Citrix, Enterprise, Hyper-V, Microsoft, VMware, XenServer, vSphere |Other posts by Erik Scholten| Tags: , , ,
Mar
28
2009

Virtualisation: it isn’t an app, it’s an infrastructure

Now most of our loyal followers know, I usually do not post any content on this blog other than things related to the hosting of website. It’s my “job” to keep this part of the infrastructure running (well, that’s not quite how it is, but that’s another subject for another post :) ). In my day-to-day job I see a lot of infrastructures pass by and recently I started to notice that some of my colleagues look at virtualisation as an application. They think in boxes.. “we need a DC, and a filer, and blahblahblah”…So I thought, let’s post an entry here and see if you all have something to say about it.

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Written by Alex Muetstege in: Citrix, Enterprise, Infrastructure Design, VMware |Other posts by Alex Muetstege| Tags: , ,
Mar
21
2009

Getting rid of my frustration ………

Most of the time when I’m frustrated it helps to play some squash, ride my bike or vent my frustration on this blog. As all walls in the area have been smashed to bits due to frustrations in the past and it is too cold to ride my bike, I will try the last one.

Yesterday I attended a seminar from work together with Edwin, Anne Jan and Alex. The subject was virtualization with Citrix and we were invited to keep a good balance between Citrix and VMware but we could not give a presentation due to time constraints. The people who organized this event know us pretty well and know (and share) our love for VMware so we were asked not to mess up the presentation and bash the Citrix guy. And so we did………

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Written by Erik Scholten in: Life, Networking |Other posts by Erik Scholten| Tags: ,
Mar
20
2009

Citrix’s definition of HA

Today we had a very interesting presentation from Citrix. At one point the discussion was about the Citrix’s definition of High Availability.

I really can imagine that this is getting a confusing discussion. VMware says: HA is to resolve a single host failure. Citrix however also calls live migration a form of HA.

I can’t argue with that but to keep the discussions and comparisons clear it is essential to specify what you define as HA. I think both are right, but the trouble is that, when comparing products, people think they have a solution for hardware failure, but instead they can do a live migration.

I hopefully that in the future both parties start using the same names for the same options, or at least explain what their option is.

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Written by Anne Jan Elsinga in: VMware |Other posts by Anne Jan Elsinga| Tags: ,
Feb
20
2009

Citrix tuning when running on VMware

After making a P2V of a couple of physical Citrix servers at a client, Anne Jan and I did some tuning for the best performance. Since the servers were on old hardware they now are already faster, but we wanted to get the most out of it. We first removed hardware drivers like Anne Jan’s article mentioned earlier. (more…)

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Written by Sander Martijn in: Knowledgebase, Migration, VMware, vCenter Converter/P2V |Other posts by Sander Martijn| Tags: , , ,

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